Who pulls Boko Haram’s strings?
Abubakar Shekau, leader of Boko Haram.
My first question is who are these Boko Haram Islamists and what exactly do they want?
You
can address the question of Boko Haram in Nigeria on many different
levels. Let's take the level of "Who is Boko Haram?" It's not clear who
Boko Haram is. A lot of the attacks that have been perpetrated under the
name of Boko Haram are obviously being done by criminal elements in
Nigeria. Some of these criminal elements in Nigeria, I believe, clearly
include the government itself. It's in the benefit, it's in the interest
of the government of Nigeria to provoke insecurity in order to justify
its military interventions. For example, the Nigerian Joint Task Force
operating in the Northern Nigerian states has perpetrated massive
atrocities against the civilian population under the name of hunting for
Boko Haram. This is very similar to the U.S. military Africa Command
(AFRICOM) position and operations in Africa under the justification of
operating against al-Qaeda in the Maghreb (AQIM).
I
see. Attacks on these schools are really horrific. And it's very
cynical that the leader of this organization would say that they don't
kill students and they don't kill women unless they are
secret-service-something, but they actually had the kids laid down and
shot them. Is this typical of this particular organization?
Again,
I'd say we don't know who did this - whether it's Boko Haram or… it has
the fingerprints of the Nigerian military on it as well. There're all
kinds of security forces operating, you know, covert operations going on
in Nigeria that the United States is responsible for.
We
also have the battle between the United States and China. This could
very well be Chinese-backed terrorist organizations or terrorist
activities which are carried out under the name of Boko Haram. The fact
that they're shooting children or shooting adults or teachers -- you
have to question where the material is coming from. Human Rights Watch
can't be trusted. U.N. can't be trusted in terms of the information they
provide. The New York Times cannot be trusted in terms of the
information that they provide. So we need somebody on the ground in
Nigeria to really know what's going on here. But, given that there are
these atrocities which are clearly happening, it's the way that anybody
in the world today operates in order to whip up fear, the spectre of
terrorism, the spectre of terrorists. And you know, you have to
recognize that the U.S. government defines organizations as terrorist
organizations, some of which have never perpetrated a single act of this
kind. So it's more complex than the picture that we are given by the
media -- of just a bunch of children being shot. That's really the
propaganda angle to it.
Propaganda
or not, you mentioned several organizations that cannot be trusted, in
your view. Why is it that you feel they cannot be trusted?
It's
profit. It’s all profits. The United States has massive profit
interests in Africa, and in Nigeria, in particular. I worked for UNICEF,
from the inside as a consultant investigating genocide in Ethiopia. And
when we completed our report on genocide in Ethiopia perpetrated by the
Ethiopian government, who is very close with the Pentagon, the report
was buried by UNICEF. And that's why a year later I released the report,
made it public, and said, "UNICEF is covering up these atrocities to
serve their private motives, their private profit motives in the
region." So UNICEF can't be trusted, it's just a corporation out for
profit. It's not out to help children. It's not out to alleviate the
poverty or the suffering in Nigeria. And that’s what this is about. If
there is… There legitimate elements of an organization called Boko Haram
in Nigeria, in the North, just as there are legitimate elements of the
Movement for the Emancipation of the Niger Delta [MEND] in the South.
And MEND and Boko Haram both have these legitimate grievances against
the government of Nigeria, one of which is its close association with
the U.S. government and the Pentagon and private military companies,
including Military Professional Resources Incorporated [MPRI] and two
others [RAND, Booz-Allen] that are operating with the Pentagon in
Nigeria. And over the course of the Nigerian history, since oil was
discovered in 1958, there has been nothing done to alleviate the poverty
or bring about development for the people in Nigeria. It’s all what’s
known as prebendalism, theft of resources, cronyism, and crime, and this
includes the current president. And remember, Murtala Mohammed the
President [of Nigeria] in 1979, was assassinated with the help of the
U.S. CIA and the later president Olusegun Obasanjo, who is very close to
the United States and the current administration in Nigeria.
Given your personal feelings about who's responsible and who's behind these crimes, what needs to be done to save the people?
I
think the Nigerians are responsible for saving the people of Nigeria.
No one else should be involved. That's what I think. Just as the claims
that Western charities, Western civilizations, Western education is part
of the problem in Nigeria -- I’m completely on board with that. I think
Western civilization and Western education is the problem all around
the world today. Instead of addressing the real roots of the crisis in
the U.S., for example, or the global climate crisis, what we’re doing is
-- and which come in the roots of Western civilization -- instead it’s
written off as… you now… leaders will make all these crazy
pronunciations which just have to do with protecting their interests and
protecting private profits. And that's what you see here. So Nigeria is
the responsibility of Nigerians; that's what I think.
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